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#1 Mon 4/21/08 10:06 am

chickinmomma
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Broke Vegan Problems

I am a broke vegan. The food is no big deal as eating cheaply on a vegan diet isn't hard. My problem is things like soap, shampoo, and cosmetics. Right now I am buying the cheapest thing possible I can find vegan or not. I can't spend $8 vegan shampoo when I can get it for $0.80.

Are there any vegan products that are really really cheap?


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#2 Mon 4/21/08 10:10 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Do you have a co-op or something nearby? Sometimes you can get things in bulk at those places that are cheap. You can also just get a bottle of Dr. Bronner's and use that for EVERYTHING.

Also, aren't you still in high school and living with your parents? Will they not pay for essentials like shampoo?


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#3 Mon 4/21/08 10:10 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Aren't White Rain products vegan? I remember hearing that somewhere, but you probably want to double check.  If nothing else, it's really cheap


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#4 Mon 4/21/08 10:38 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

do you have a big lots nearby?
i find natural/vegan products (toiletries and food) there all of the time because they've been discontinued, the company has come out with new packaging and they want to get rid of all of the old stuff, or they just didn't sell well enough.

baking soda works wonders for many things as well.

i also agree with using dr bronner's for everything (although i think it's a bit gross as toothpaste.) it may be a little expensive, but you'd only have to worry about one product.

edit: oh yeah, always remember that bar soap is 8million times more economical body wash. there are plenty of cheap vegan bar soaps out there.

Last edited by jacblades (Mon 4/21/08 11:52 am)


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#5 Mon 4/21/08 11:56 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

jordanpattern wrote:

Also, aren't you still in high school and living with your parents? Will they not pay for essentials like shampoo?

Yep I'm still with my parents but they aren't willing to pay more than $3-$4 on soap,shampoo, ect. an I have to buy my own cosmetics. They won't let me order anything online and the nearest health food store is atleast 45 minutes away.

Where can I find Dr. Bronners? I'll see if I can find out about the white rain....


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#6 Mon 4/21/08 12:24 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Do you have a Whole Foods near by?  They have generic shampoo and body wash that's like $2 a bottle and it says "no animal testing and no animal by-products" on it.

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#7 Mon 4/21/08 1:25 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

cosmetics: wet n' wild! most of their stuff is vegan!


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#8 Mon 4/21/08 3:59 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Why won't they let you order stuff online?

I'm sorry. Now I want to send you a goodie bag of vegan soaps!

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#9 Mon 4/21/08 4:45 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

they have dr bronners at target. i think some vo5 things are vegan

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#10 Mon 4/21/08 5:03 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Yes, White Rain is cheap and vegan:

http://www.whiterain.com/qna.asp

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#11 Mon 4/21/08 5:09 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

stellamarie wrote:

Yes, White Rain is cheap and vegan:

http://www.whiterain.com/qna.asp

Not meaning to hijack but as a side question, does anyone know of a dandruff shampoo that doesn't test on animals or use animal products? I can start my own thread if I need to but it's so close I thought it might be ok here.

It's probably kind of a tall order, but I can only use the things I prefer for so long before I have to dip into hubbies head and shoulders for a few days and I KNOW that tests on animals.

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#12 Mon 4/21/08 9:15 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

You can get vegan, handmade soap on Etsy for very reasonable prices.

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#13 Mon 4/21/08 9:21 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

I just wash my hair with baking soda and vinegar and it looks fine

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#14 Mon 4/21/08 9:44 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

I use Lush solid shampoo bars, and they've been a money saver for me. I have used 1 bar in a little less than a year, washing my hair every other day or every 3 days. I have short hair so of course consumption will be different for other people, but I would have used over 3 or 4 bottles of liquid shampoo during that time. For an equal veganness and environmental-friendliness it's hard to beat.

Also, I would not necessarily trust buying soap from Etsy. Other soapless cosmetics, why not, but actual soap is made primarily from fat and caustic soda. I remember making some in chemistry class and how your finger started stinging if you manipulated the finished product without protection. I would not put non-professionally made soap on my skin. But there are many soapless cosmetics that you can make yourself for cheap (what theconcept said is the most famous I think)

Aunicornist, Lush makes dandruff shampoos, they stink though.


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#15 Mon 4/21/08 10:24 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

theconcept wrote:

I just wash my hair with baking soda and vinegar and it looks fine

+1.  You can find more instructions by doing a google search.

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#16 Mon 4/21/08 10:31 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

aunicornist wrote:

stellamarie wrote:

Yes, White Rain is cheap and vegan:

http://www.whiterain.com/qna.asp

Not meaning to hijack but as a side question, does anyone know of a dandruff shampoo that doesn't test on animals or use animal products? I can start my own thread if I need to but it's so close I thought it might be ok here.

It's probably kind of a tall order, but I can only use the things I prefer for so long before I have to dip into hubbies head and shoulders for a few days and I KNOW that tests on animals.

Giovanni has a Tea Tree Triple Treat shampoo that works well for dandruff issues.  The company is family-owned, cruelty-free, mostly organic and made in the USA.  http://www.giovannicosmetics.com/WLine/ … hampoo.php


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#17 Mon 4/21/08 10:45 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

jordanpattern wrote:

You can also just get a bottle of Dr. Bronner's and use that for EVERYTHING.

Sayin'. It doesn't seem cheap at first glance, but it stretches really, really far. I can be everything from laundry detergent to toothpaste if you are willing to go there.

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#18 Mon 4/21/08 11:46 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Dr. Bronner's faded my laundry the first and last time it went into the washing machine.  Just my experience though.


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#19 Tue 4/22/08 12:49 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

heliumbaboon wrote:

jordanpattern wrote:

You can also just get a bottle of Dr. Bronner's and use that for EVERYTHING.

Sayin'. It doesn't seem cheap at first glance, but it stretches really, really far. I can be everything from laundry detergent to toothpaste if you are willing to go there.

Another vote for Dr. B's. I've been using it as deodorant lately and it works great, which is a good revelation because natural deodorant is so pricey and I'm currently broke myself. granted I haven't been doing much sweaty stuff, but so far I'm pleased.

that said, I used it for shampoo a few times and it left my scalp itchy. My solution? ... I haven't shampooed my hair in about 2 weeks. ewww, I know. I have been using conditioner though, since I've still got quite a bit left, and if I don't use any my hair becomes one huge tangle. So far, not shampooing has gone well, I haven't gotten any complaints! So I guess that's my suggestion: try changing your hygiene routine and see what difference it makes. You might be surprised!

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#20 Tue 4/22/08 2:46 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

aelle wrote:

I use Lush solid shampoo bars, and they've been a money saver for me. I have used 1 bar in a little less than a year, washing my hair every other day or every 3 days. I have short hair so of course consumption will be different for other people, but I would have used over 3 or 4 bottles of liquid shampoo during that time. For an equal veganness and environmental-friendliness it's hard to beat.

Also, I would not necessarily trust buying soap from Etsy. Other soapless cosmetics, why not, but actual soap is made primarily from fat and caustic soda. I remember making some in chemistry class and how your finger started stinging if you manipulated the finished product without protection. I would not put non-professionally made soap on my skin. But there are many soapless cosmetics that you can make yourself for cheap (what theconcept said is the most famous I think)

Aunicornist, Lush makes dandruff shampoos, they stink though.

Same here.  I've been using the same Lush shampoo bar for about 3 months now...and am expecting that I'll have to replace it at month 4.  But, I also use it as body soap which is why it doesn't stretch quite as far for me.  But still, for all the uses I get out of it, it's pretty cost effective. 

As for the Lush dandruff shampoo...the soak and float is apparently awesome for dandruff, but smells really bad.  Though the squeaky green is supposedly good for dandruff too (I use this one, nit cause of dandruff but just cause I like it) and it smells really good!  if his flakes aren't too bad I bet the squeaky green would do the trick.


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#21 Tue 4/22/08 9:25 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

I think that Citre Shine is vegan also (I had a vegan friend in high school and I remember she only used Citre Shine stuff). Also, I have a bottle of Tresseme hair styling stuff and it says prominently on the back "no testing on animals."

I also love Lush, Origins, and Aveda, but they are in no way cheap (at least for the initial investment, although maybe you can agree with your parents that instead of 3-4 bottles of shampoo, you could get one lush solid shampoo bar, for example, in that case the cost would be comparable.)

I'm also a big fan of just plain shampooing less frequently- it does wonders for your hair.


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#22 Tue 4/22/08 9:40 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

bazu wrote:

I'm also a big fan of just plain shampooing less frequently- it does wonders for your hair.

I wish but I work at a barn and unless I want my hair to smell like horse poop and sweat I have to wash daily.

Thanks for all of the suggestions, I really like the bar soap idea. It just never occured to me to use it in my hair....


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#23 Tue 4/22/08 10:15 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

chickinmomma,
it makes me uncomfortable that you are posting a thread about being too poor to buy essentials like shampoo and soap, but in the same pause you've signed up for the May swap, which carries a $20 plus shipping price tag.

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#24 Tue 4/22/08 11:41 am

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

chickinmomma wrote:

bazu wrote:

I'm also a big fan of just plain shampooing less frequently- it does wonders for your hair.

I wish but I work at a barn and unless I want my hair to smell like horse poop and sweat I have to wash daily.

Thanks for all of the suggestions, I really like the bar soap idea. It just never occured to me to use it in my hair....

that's understandable! just to clarify, I didn't mean using bar soap to wash hair (it would be way too harsh and heavy for my hair), but specifically formulated shampoo that comes in solid form.


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#25 Tue 4/22/08 2:35 pm

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Re: Broke Vegan Problems

Fee wrote:

Aren't White Rain products vegan? I remember hearing that somewhere, but you probably want to double check.  If nothing else, it's really cheap

Yes.  Yes they are.

http://www.whiterain.com/qna.asp


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